Used Graffenstaden Milling Machine for sale (64,728)

Condition: good (used), Pantograph Milling / Engraving Machine Stock number: 3098 Manufacturer: Scripta Machine number: Type / Model: SR 300 Travel range x-y-z: mm Pattern table / working table: 600 x 400 // 600 x 250 mm Speed range: 700 to 18,000 rpm, stepless Transmission: 1 : 1.33 to 1 : 10 Accessories/equipment: Font sets; others (see pictures) Bdedsy H Hhbopfx Akxeb Power requirement: kW Condition: good Weight: 0.7 t

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2002, travel -x axis 880 mm travel -y axis 630 mm travel -z axis 630 mm control HEIDENHAIN - TNC 426M Bsdpfx Aeyzt Aujkxodb number of spindle speeds 12.000 U/min numbers of positions in the tool changer (2 x 16) 32 Tool bore SK 40 surface area 1.250 x 700 mm table load 600 kg Milling machining centers - universal | DMG - DMU 80T equipped with B axis The machine is in good condition. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - #Tags: 80 T | 80-T

Condition: used, x-travel 8000 mm y-travel 2500 mm z-travel 1000 mm Bedpfxeyuqkzj Akxjdb control Heidenhain TNC 355 taper ISO 50 spindle speeds 20 - 1800 mm voltage 380 V total power requirement 27,6 kW

Condition: not inspected (used), Year of construction: 1986, feed length X-axis: 580 mm, feed length Y-axis: 400 mm, feed length Z-axis: 450 mm, spindle speed (max.): 2,500 rpm, Grunding Contour 2 table 800x460 mm Bjdpfx Akjy E N Dvexedb travel 580x400x450 mm max spindle speed 2500 rpm spindle taper 40

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1981, spindle moulder, spindle moulder, wood milling machine -Manufacturer: Martin, table milling machine type T 21 with table extension -Milling spindle: Ø 30 mm -Speeds: 3,000/4,500/6,000/9,000 rpm Bdodpfx Akownbfkexob -Dimensions total: 1620/1060/H1120 mm -Total weight: 698 kg

Condition: good (used), functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 1,500 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 650 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 620 mm, table width: 450 mm, table length: 1,800 mm, rotational speed (max.): 6,000 rpm, overall weight: 4,500 kg, input voltage: 400 V, FOR SALE: Primero KM-150 Vertical Machining Center A reliable, well-maintained vertical machining center is available immediately from our stock in Finland. The Primero KM-150 is a versatile and robust machine suitable for a wide variety of milling, drilling, and contouring operations—an ideal solution for job shops, subcontractors, and production facilities seeking to increase capacity without the cost of a new machine. Key Specifications: Brand / Model: Primero KM-150 Year of Manufacture: 2002 Country of Origin: Taiwan Control: C-TEK (English language interface) Spindle Speed: 0–6,000 rpm Spindle Power: 7.5 kW Tool Holder: BT40 Tool Magazine: 16 positions External Coolant System: Yes Bdjdpfxjy Hmi Sj Akxeb Axis Travels: X-axis: 1,500 mm Y-axis: 650 mm Z-axis: 620 mm Working Table: Length: 1,800 mm Depth: 450 mm Machine Dimensions & Weight: Width × Depth × Height: 3,000 × 2,280 × 2,550 mm Weight: 4,500 kg Why choose this machine? The generous 1.5-meter X-axis travel and a solid 1,800 mm table make the KM-150 especially suitable for larger workpieces, mold and die applications, and general production milling. The user-friendly, English-language C-TEK control provides intuitive operation, while the BT40 spindle interface is an industry-standard, ensuring easy access to tool holders and consumables.

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2022, functionality: fully functional, We offer you: Manufacturer: Deckel Maho Model: FP4M special edition Year of manufacture: 2022 Control system: Heidenhain ND 7013 digital readout Technical data: Travel distances: X-axis: 500 mm Y-axis: 530 mm Z-axis: 400 mm B-axis: swiveling ±90° (180°) Main spindle: Tool holder: SK 40 Spindle speed range – main spindle: 25 – 3,000 rpm Drive power – main spindle (100/40%): 6 kW Worktable: Table size: D 800 x 480 mm Feeds: Feed range: 6 – 500 mm/min Rapid traverse (x/y/z): 1,500 mm/min Space requirement (W x D): approx. 2,235 x 1,875 mm Machine weight: approx. 1,600 kg with worktable and milling head Technical features & accessories: - With additionally adjustable milling head on the Y-axis (130 mm) Bedpfoy Hfqusx Akxsdb Accessories, depicted tools and clamping devices are only included in the scope of delivery if specified in the additional information. Subject to changes and errors in the technical data and specifications, as well as prior sale!

Condition: used, R80SM is a model of the rotary copy shaper (router-shaper) by Rye Machinery Ltd (High Wycombe, England) Details of the R80SM model - Machine type: Automatic rotary shaper with single or dual spindle for shape copying in furniture wood (shaper/copy router). - Application: Processing of furniture legs, frames, profiles – table rotation copies template onto the part. Typical technical parameters R80 - Rotary table diameter: approx. 1600 mm (as in similar model R80 SM Speedmax). - Motor power: approx. 5–7.5 kW per spindle, speed 6000–9000 rpm. - Tables: Hydraulically/pneumatically rotating, with clamping. - Lubrication: Exactly as on the nameplate – Shell/Telania grease daily at red points. Bjdpoyrphmefx Akxsdb

Condition: used, R80E MC is a model of the rotary copy shaper (router-shaper) by Rye Machinery Ltd (High Wycombe, England), manufactured in 1983 (serial number 112/83). Details of the R80E MC model - Machine type: Automatic rotary shaper with single or dual spindle for shape copying in furniture wood (shaper/copy router). - Year of manufacture: 1983 (112/83 – 112th machine in 1983 or December 1983). - Application: Processing of furniture legs, frames, profiles – table rotation copies template onto the part. Bjdpfjyrn Rajx Akxjdb Typical technical parameters R80/R80E - Rotary table diameter: approx. 1600 mm (as in similar model R80 SM Speedmax). - Motor power: approx. 5–7.5 kW per spindle, speed 6000–9000 rpm. - Tables: Hydraulically/pneumatically rotating, with clamping. - Lubrication: Exactly as on the nameplate – Shell/Telania grease daily at red points.

Condition: used, Macchia Milling Machine for Turned Parts - 2 working fields - Two milling spindles - Copying operation - Pneumatic component clamping Bdjdpfjxrpw Hsx Akxeb

Condition: used, Dimensions (l x w x h) approx.: 3200 x 1800 x 1600 mm Weight approx.: 500 kg 3 spindles, Bjdpfx Aksxrlgwsxsdb 1 milling spindle, 2 - 3 grinding and milling spindles, feeder belt approx. 100 mm wide, total working length approx. 3000 mm, extendable workpiece support

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1995, machine/vehicle number: 288.I.8, With the NOVA-3 tenoning machine, two rounded tenons of different sizes and inclinations can be produced at both ends of a solid wood part at the same time. The innovative technology of the NOVA-3 makes it the leading double-sided tenoning machine on the market. ROBUST MECHANICS Torsion-free, stress-free annealed steel welded construction, large-dimensioned processing units with supports and slides made of gray cast iron, absolutely vibration-free. Mechanics designed for high operational reliability with the highest production output. USER FRIENDLINESS The new swivel system of the processing units enables short set-up times, in which the position of the tools always remains constant when swiveling around the vertical as well as the horizontal axis, i.e. the swivel point always corresponds to the tool position. Even if the inclination changes, the shoulder length of the workpieces remains the same. FLEXIBILITY NOVA-3 is an extremely versatile processing machine. The large and reliable mechanics, the sophisticated design of the processing units and the innovative swivel system allow both short, heavily deformed workpieces and large parts to be machined with equal precision and high cutting performance. For the latter, the stable machine structure and the performance of the motors are a decisive factor. The flexibility is further underlined by the range of loading magazines; Depending on requirements, the customer can equip his machine with the ADR or APPC automatic loading system. The workpieces are loaded from suitable reference points. Bdedpfxjvvvr Aj Akxob The processed parts run out at the bottom of the machine and can therefore be easily removed by the operator, transferred to a conveyor belt or placed in a container. No manual intervention is required for this, the operator only has to load the magazine. Spindle diameter: 25 mm Spindle length: 70 mm Connection diameter: 2 x 100 mm Central lubrication Automatic or manual operation Automatic material loading and discharge Min./max. element length: 199.5 mm / 2030 mm (dimension A) Element thickness: 100 mm Width: 90 mm Unit adjustment range (B and F): + 92° / - 27° Unit angle adjustment (D and H): + 45° / - 20° Unit angle adjustment (E and M): + 45° / - 10° Spindle height adjustment (C and G): + 62° / - 5° Joint height and width adjustment Spindle angle adjustment: 0° - 90° (vertical journal) Cycle speed adjustment

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2012, x-travel 800 mm y-travel 800 mm z-travel 600 mm Control Heidenhain iTNC 530 Bjdpfx Asyzt Dlokxjdb spindle tunring speed 30 - 8.000 U/min spindle drive 25 kW torque 244 Nm tool taper SK 40 number of tool places 30+190 Pos. A-axis ° C-Axis 360 ° table surface area 800 x 630 mm table load 600 kg rapid traverse ( x / y / z ) 40 m/min auto power on hours ca. 79.968 h spindle hours ca. 22.465 h In our assessment, the machine is in good used condition and can be inspected under power by appointment. Technical Features & Accessories: - Additional magazine - Chip conveyor - Infinitely variable speed control - 5-axis simultaneous machining - 70 bar internal coolant supply - Flushing nozzle - Workpiece measuring probe - Blum laser tool control - Heidenhain 410 electronic handwheel Accessories, tools, and clamping devices shown are only included in the scope of delivery if this is noted in the additional information. Technical data and specifications are subject to change without notice. Prior sale is reserved.

Condition: used, condition Defekt/Ersatzteilträger manufacture Mikron type HSM 400 U Bedpjyzt A Usfx Akxodb The machine is defective and is being sold for spare parts. Accessories, tools, and clamping devices shown are only included if explicitly stated in the additional information. Technical data and specifications are subject to change without notice. Prior sale is reserved.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2011, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 650 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 480 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 475 mm, table width: 450 mm, table length: 1,200 mm, table load: 400 kg, overall weight: 2,300 kg, We offer this used Abene Machine Ab VHF-360Ti milling machine, year of construction 2011. Serial number: 36120 Year of manufacture: 2011 Heidenhain TNC620-control Bodpoy Hgnhsfx Akxjdb Table size 1200 x 450 mm Max load 400 kg X-travel 650 mm, Y-travel 480 mm, Z-travel 475 mm Spindle BT40 Main motor 7,5 kW Weigth 2300 kg Excellent condition If you have any questions or need more information, feel free to send us a message or give us a call.

Year of construction: 1998, condition: used, ID No.: F40205, T-slot clamping table: approx. 4,200 x 960 mm; HEIDENHAIN control; chip conveyor KNOLL 200 S-1/50, year of manufacture: 1997, serial no.: 33897; belt filter KNOLL VRF 150, year of manufacture: 1998; hydraulic unit; control cabinet; cooling system BKW DL32V/4519-1KKSRZP, total machine length: approx. 10 linear meters. Bdsdpfsyzthqox Akxeb

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2017, Milling machines Travel distance X: 800 mm Travel distance Y :950 mm Travel distance Z: 1020 mm HSC-machines Number of axis: 5 milling machine / machining center Control: Siemens Sinumerik spindle chuck: HSK 100 spindle revolutions: 6000 rpm Bdsdpfx Asyzw Saokxeb Speed range to: 6000 U/min table size X: 770 mm table size Y: 770 mm max. workpiece weight: 800 kg tool changer: 60 - time input Power : 32 kW Torque: 340 Nm Rapid traverse: 40 m/min feed rate: 40 mm/min spindle cooling chip conveyor control Siemens 5-axis CNC universal machining center Designed for high-precision milling of various materials Extremely rigid construction for heavy-duty cutting Equipped with Siemens Sinumerik control HSK100 spindle, ideal for hard metal machining High process reliability and efficiency Suitable for automotive, mechanical engineering and mold making industries

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 1990, Make: Kunzmann Type: WF5/3 Year of construction: 1990 X - axis: 500 mm Bdedjffyfrjpfx Akxjb Y - axis: 360 mm Z - axis: 420 mm Clamping surface: 700 x 350 mm tool holder: SK40 spindle bore: 22 mm quill stroke: 60 mm Dimensions: approx. W 1.50 x D 2.40 x H 1.90 m Weight: approx. 1.6 t All information without guarantee. The machine is in a very good condition. A demonstration is possible at any time in our exhibition hall.

Condition: new, travel distance X-axis: 3,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,300 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,500 mm, rapid traverse X-axis: 30,000 m/min, rapid traverse Y-axis: 30,000 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 30,000 m/min, position of the milling head: Universal-Diagonal-Fräskopf, spindle speed (max.): 6,000 rpm, table width: 1,200 mm, table load: 6,000 kg, table length: 1,600 mm, workpiece weight (max.): 6,000 kg, torque: 1,178 Nm, power: 31 kW (42.15 HP), Equipment: rotational speed infinitely variable, LAGUN BM 3RT Bed-Type Milling Center with Rotary Table – Available at Short Notice The LAGUN BM 3RT is a high-stability bed-type milling center with rotary table, designed for heavy-duty and precise machining. Ideal for single-part manufacturing as well as series production, it meets the highest demands for rigidity, accuracy, and reliability — without the need for elaborate foundation works. Your advantages at a glance: ✔ Installation & commissioning in Germany included Bdodpshy At Aefx Akxsb ✔ Service & spare parts directly from JMT ✔ Lease purchase / financing available ✔ No special foundation required (standard industrial floor is sufficient) ✔ 24-month warranty Why choose LAGUN: LAGUN is one of Spain’s leading machine tool manufacturers (MAHER HOLDING), known for robust construction, high dynamics, and decades of experience in building bed-type milling machines. The machines stand out for their exceptional reliability, ease of maintenance, and economical operation. Technical features: Control System: HEIDENHAIN TNC 7 CNC path control + 19" TFT display HEIDENHAIN motors, measuring systems, and electronic handwheel HR-510 Cooling: Internal coolant supply (ICS) 36 bar Tool Changer: 40-position chain magazine with double gripper Chip Removal: Double hinged belt conveyor (front and rear) Enclosure: Full enclosure (perimetric) Accuracies: Positioning accuracy: ± 0.015 mm Repeatability: ± 0.008 mm Your benefits with JMT: ✔ Official LAGUN distributor in Germany ✔ On-site technical support & service ✔ Fast spare parts supply ✔ Training and instruction included ✔ Reference machines available in Germany Contact us – we’ll be happy to advise you and provide an individual quotation

Condition: new, travel distance X-axis: 3,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,300 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,500 mm, rapid traverse X-axis: 30,000 m/min, rapid traverse Y-axis: 30,000 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 30,000 m/min, position of the milling head: Universal-Diagonal-Fräskopf, spindle speed (max.): 6,000 rpm, table width: 1,100 mm, table load: 10,000 kg, table length: 3,100 mm, overall weight: 27,000 kg, torque: 1,178 Nm, spindle motor power: 53 W, Equipment: rotational speed infinitely variable, LAGUN BM 3 C Bed Type Milling Center with Integrated Rotary Table – Available at Short Notice The LAGUN BM 3 C is a high-stability bed type milling center with integrated rotary table, ideal for heavy-duty and precise machining tasks. Perfectly suited for single-part and series production where maximum rigidity, accuracy, and reliability are required—all without the need for extensive foundation work. Your advantages at a glance: ✔ Installation & commissioning in Germany included ✔ Service & spare parts supplied directly via JMT ✔ Leasing / financing options available ✔ No special foundation required (standard industrial flooring is sufficient) ✔ 24 months warranty Bdodsm Tv Iijpfx Akxeb Why choose LAGUN: LAGUN is one of Spain's leading machine tool manufacturers (MAHER HOLDING), renowned for robust construction, high dynamics, and decades of expertise in building bed type milling machines. These machines stand out for their high reliability, straightforward maintenance, and cost-effective operation. Technical Specification: Control System: HEIDENHAIN TNC 7 CNC path control + 19" TFT display HEIDENHAIN motors, measuring systems, and HR-510 electronic handwheel Integrated Rotary Table: Ø 1,100 mm Cooling: Internal coolant supply (IKZ) 36 bar Tool Changer: 40-position chain magazine with double gripper Chip Removal: Double hinged belt conveyors (front and rear) Enclosure: Full perimetric enclosure Accuracies: Positioning accuracy: ± 0.015 mm Repeatability: ± 0.008 mm Your advantages with JMT: ✔ Official LAGUN distributor in Germany ✔ On-site technical support and service ✔ Fast spare part supply ✔ Training and instruction included ✔ Reference machines available in Germany Contact us – we will be happy to advise you and provide a tailored quotation.

Condition: new, travel distance X-axis: 5,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,300 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,500 mm, rapid traverse X-axis: 30,000 m/min, rapid traverse Y-axis: 30,000 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 30,000 m/min, position of the milling head: Universal-Diagonal-Fräskopf, spindle speed (max.): 6,000 rpm, table width: 1,100 mm, table load: 14,000 kg, table length: 5,100 mm, overall weight: 35,000 kg, torque: 1,178 Nm, spindle motor power: 53 W, Equipment: rotational speed infinitely variable, LAGUN BM 5 Bed Type Milling Center The LAGUN BM 5 is a highly robust bed type milling center designed for heavy-duty and precise machining. Ideal for single-part as well as series production, meeting the highest standards for rigidity, accuracy, and reliability – all without the need for costly foundation work. Bdjdpfxjq Ixh Hj Akxob Your benefits at a glance: ✔ Installation and commissioning in Germany included ✔ Service and spare parts directly through JMT ✔ Leasing / financing available ✔ No special foundation required (standard industrial floor is sufficient) ✔ 24-month warranty Why LAGUN: LAGUN is one of Spain's leading machine tool manufacturers (MAHER HOLDING), renowned for their robust design, high dynamics, and decades of experience in building bed milling machines. The machines impress with high reliability, ease of maintenance, and cost-effective operation. Technical features: Control system: HEIDENHAIN TNC 640 CNC path control + 19" TFT display HEIDENHAIN motors, measuring systems, and HR-510 electronic handwheel Cooling: Internal coolant supply (IKZ) 36 bar Tool changer: 24-position drum magazine with double gripper Chip disposal: Double hinged belt conveyor (front and rear) Preparation: Prepared for 4th axis (rotary table optional) Enclosure: Full enclosure (perimeter) Accuracies: Positioning accuracy: ± 0.025 mm Repeatability: ± 0.008 mm Your benefits with JMT: ✔ Official LAGUN distributor in Germany ✔ Technical support and on-site service ✔ Fast spare parts supply ✔ Training and instruction included ✔ Reference machines available in Germany Contact us – we will be happy to advise you and provide you with a customized offer.

Condition: new, travel distance X-axis: 8,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,300 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 2,000 mm, position of the milling head: Universal-Diagonal-Fräskopf, rapid traverse X-axis: 30,000 m/min, rapid traverse Y-axis: 30,000 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 30,000 m/min, spindle speed (max.): 6,000 rpm, pivoting range: 1 °, table length: 9,500 mm, table width: 1,100 mm, torque: 1,178 Nm, table load: 62,000 kg, coolant supply: 36 bar, workpiece weight (max.): 62,000 kg, Equipment: documentation/manual, rotational speed infinitely variable, LAGUN CM 8 Travelling Column Milling Machine The LAGUN CM 8 is a highly dynamic travelling column milling machine designed for the precise machining of large and complex workpieces. It is ideal for both single-part manufacturing and series production, meeting the highest demands for accuracy, stability, and flexibility. Your benefits at a glance: ✔ Installation & commissioning in Germany included ✔ Service & spare parts directly via JMT ✔ Leasing / financing options available ✔ High flexibility thanks to the travelling column design ✔ 24-month warranty Why choose LAGUN: LAGUN is one of Spain’s leading machine tool manufacturers (MAHER HOLDING), known for robust construction, high dynamics, and decades of experience in milling machine engineering. The machines stand out for their reliability, easy maintenance, and cost-effective operation. Technical specifications: Control system: Two HEIDENHAIN TNC 7 digital CNCs – one at the front and one at the rear of the machine 2 x HEIDENHAIN 19" TFT monitors HEIDENHAIN motors, measuring systems and HR-510 electronic handwheel Cooling: Internal coolant supply (IKZ) 36 bar Tool changer: Automatic tool changer (ATC), 60 positions Chip disposal: Hinged belt conveyor Preparation: Prepped for rotary table / 4th axis Enclosure: Bdjdpfx Aem Tv D Ajkxob Three-sided perimeter guarding Accuracies: Positioning accuracy: ±0.040 mm Repeatability: ±0.008 mm Your advantages as a JMT customer: ✔ Official LAGUN distributor in Germany ✔ On-site technical support and service ✔ Fast spare parts supply ✔ Training and instruction included ✔ Reference machines available in Germany Contact us – we will gladly advise you and provide a tailored quotation.

Condition: new, travel distance X-axis: 2,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,200 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 800 mm, feed rate X-axis: 30,000 m/min, feed rate Y-axis: 30,000 m/min, feed rate Z-axis: 30,000 m/min, table length: 1,900 mm, table width: 1,100 mm, spindle speed (max.): 6,000 rpm, table load: 4,000 kg, position of the milling head: Vertikal, torque: 1,356 Nm, spindle nose: SK 50 - DIN 69871A, Equipment: rotational speed infinitely variable, STARVISION DH 2012 Gantry Milling Machine – Available for Immediate Delivery The STARVISION DH 2012 is a high-precision gantry milling machine designed for machining large and heavy workpieces. Ideal for tool and die making, mechanical engineering, contract manufacturing, and demanding machining operations requiring maximum stability, dynamics, and accuracy. Your Advantages at a Glance: ✔ Installation & commissioning in Germany included ✔ Service & spare parts directly through JMT ✔ Financing / leasing options available ✔ High rigidity for heavy-duty machining ✔ 24-month warranty Why STARVISION: STARVISION stands for modern gantry milling machines delivering high precision and efficient machining. With a stable gantry design, powerful drives, and premium components, this machine is ideal for demanding applications. Technical Specifications: Control System: HEIDENHAIN TNC 640 CNC path control HEIDENHAIN 19" TFT display HEIDENHAIN motors, measuring systems, and electronic handwheel Cooling: Internal coolant supply (IKZ) 70 bar Tool Changer: 60-position chain magazine with double gripper Chip Removal: Hinged belt chip conveyor (transverse) Dual-screw conveyor (longitudinal) Preparation: Prepped for 4th axis (rotary table) Enclosure: Fully enclosed, top cover Accuracies: Positioning accuracy: ± 0.025 mm Repeatability: ± 0.020 mm Your Benefits as a JMT Customer: Bedpfoq Ixc Tsx Akxsdb ✔ Official sales partner in Germany ✔ On-site technical support and service ✔ Fast spare parts supply ✔ Training and operator instruction included ✔ Reference machines available in Germany Contact us – we are happy to advise you and provide a customized quote.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Travel X/Y/Z: 1400mm/1000mm/1000mm, table dimensions X/Y: 1600mm/850mm, max. table load: 2500kg, speed: 4000rpm, spindle power: 22kW, feed: 20m/min, spindle taper: ISO50. Machine dimensions X/Y/Z: approx. 4300mm/2500mm/2600mm, weight: approx. 10000kg. An on-site inspection is possible. Bdodsy Hk Ulopfx Akxsb

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 1989, x-travel 1500 mm y-travel 1000 mm z-travel 700 mm table: 1500 x 1000 mm control FIDIA Bodpsu Id N Dofx Akxodb weight of the machine ca. 11 t