Used Chronos Scales for sale (2,108)

Year of construction: 1971, condition: excellent (used), CNC Dresser KW with Siemens 840D new in 2002 HeidenHain measuring scales Siemens Servo engines Crankshaft and External grinding Large steady rest package Large stone and flanch package Centre height: 316mm Grinding Ø: 632mm Grinding length: 3000mm Grinding stone dimensions:800 x 305 x 105mm Guedpfx Afjm Twz Aj Sob Grinding stone speeds: 1000Rpm Table inclasement: 9,1° Coolant system: Yes Filtration: Yes CNC Dresser KW with Siemens 840D new in 2002 HeidenHain measuring scales Siemens Servo engines Crankshaft and External grinding Large steady rest package Large stone and flanch package Length: 10100mm Width: 2600mm Height: 2300mm Weight: 15000kg

Condition: ready for operation (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2007, control type: NC control, working width: 3,200 mm, sheet thickness (max.): 3 mm, sheet thickness steel (max.): 3 mm, Equipment: CE marking, angle stop, documentation/manual, emergency stop, finger protection, foot remote control, safety light barrier, type plate available, Motorized Guillotine Shear Make: Schröder Model: MHSU V 3200 x 3.0 Year: 2007 Technical Data Manufacturer: Schröder Model: MHSU V 3200 x 3.0 Year of manufacture: 2007 Working length: 3200 mm Sheet thickness: 3.0 mm Strokes per minute: 34 (continuous mode only) Drive power: 9 kVA Dimensions: L 4.0 x W 1.9 (plus support arms 0.6m) x H 1.5 m Weight: 3300 kg Equipment - POS 100 control system with 9-fold program memory - Pneumatically controlled sheet support device - Linear front guide for movable T-slot consoles - 2 movable support arms on linear guide - Right-hand extended back gauge with T-slot and scale (currently dismantled) - Hold-down device with hard rubber strip to protect polished sheets - Rear area safeguarding via light barrier - Selector switch for single and continuous stroke Gjdpfx Afey R Na Uo Seub - Foot switch All information provided without guarantee. A demonstration is possible at any time in our showroom.

Year of construction: 2004, condition: excellent (used), 1 used low pressure steam boiler ----- manufacturer : LOOS, Gunzenhausen type : U-ND capacity : 800 kg/h working pressure : 1 bar test pressure : 2 bar water contents full : 1.108 l year of construction : 2004 CE mark : 0036 equipped with Weishaupt gas burner G5/1-D, ZMD-LN, 200-900 kW, 120°C, fittings for gas supply, switch cabinet with touch panel, and the existing small and large-scale fittings. Dimensions of boiler body (approx.): diameter incl. insulation : 1.230 mm width : 1.450 mm Gedpfxsnp Hwkj Af Seub transport height : 2.200 mm length : 1.950mm length including burner : 2.700 mm 1 used feedwater module ----- manufacturer : LOOS, Gunzenhausen type : WSM content approx. : 800 l with switch cabinet, sampling water cooler, 2 dosing vessels

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 1997, 1 used steam boiler ----- manufacturer : LOOS Gunzenhausen type : U - HD 1250 heating surface approx. : 20 qm boiler capacity max. : 1.250 kg/h working pressure : 16 bar increased test pressure : 28,8 bar water contents low level approx. : 993 l water contents full approx. : 1.365 l year of construction : 2000 equipped with Weishaupt-combined burner (oil/ gas) Typ GL5/1-D, ZD, 200-945 kW, oil throughput 20-79 kg/h, 15-500 mbar, fittings for gas supply, switch cabinet, feed water pump, and the existing small and large-scale fittings. Gujdpot E Rwnefx Af Ssb Economizer: Eco 3, 65 kw, 31 bar, 238°C, 28 ltr, 8,5 m².

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2003, 1 used steam boiler ----- manufacturer : LOOS Gunzenhausen type : U - HD 1250 heating surface approx. : 20 qm boiler capacity max. : 1.250 kg/h working pressure : 16 bar increased test pressure : 28,8 bar water contents low level approx. : 993 l water contents full approx. : 1.365 l year of construction : 2000 Gusdpfx Afjt E Rnte Sjb equipped with Weishaupt-combined burner (oil/ gas) Typ GL5/1-D, ZD, 200-945 kW, oil throughput 20-79 kg/h, 15-500 mbar, fittings for gas supply, switch cabinet, feed water pump, and the existing small and large-scale fittings. Economizer: Eco 3, 65 kw, 31 bar, 238°C, 28 ltr, 8,5 m².

Condition: used, Rotary table, indexing table, dividing head WMW type D 315 k Gujdpfxoxf Uyts Af Sjb Serial no.: 10930 Table diameter: 315 mm Table height: 135 mm Gear ratio: 90 : 1 - Crank handle with indexing plate and sector arm - Graduated scale ring for reading at the crank - Readable degree graduation on the rotary table - Swing-out worm for direct indexing - Clamping via clamping lever - 14 mm T-slots in the table plate (one place damaged) - Built-in indexing plate: 23-28-33-42-51-61 Weight: 85 kg

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2005, functionality: fully functional, pressing force: 320 t, installation height: 615 mm, control type: CNC control, Bending length [mm] 4220.00 Press force [tons] 320 Control unit TRUMPF TASC 6000 Hydraulic hours [h] 53,030 Guedpfx Afey Sarqj Ssb Standard equipment: - Rigid machine frame, all-steel welded construction - Press beam with high bending strength - Spherical mounting of the press beam with beam tilt capability - Electro-hydraulic top drive with 4-cylinder technology - Proportional valve technology and switchable double pump - Modern block hydraulics with control valves mounted on the cylinder - Electronic pressure scale - Measuring system with centrally mounted glass scales and temperature compensation - Manual, integrated wedge crowning in the bed - "New Standard Clamping" manual, hardened, self-centring upper tool clamping system for vertical tool change - Lower tool clamping with hydraulic clamping, hardened - Programmable lower tool displacement (pneumatic, 2 positions) - 2-axis backgauge system with rack-and-pinion drive for X and R axes, 2 stop fingers, safely adjustable from the front - Machine control: TASC 6000 - Operator console with LCD keypad, emergency up, down and E-stop foot switch - Safety features: integrated side doors and automatic rear roller cover - Control cabinet cooling - Oil cooler - Modern machine design + 5-axis backgauge system + Hydraulic upper tool clamping + CNC crowning + BendGuard + 2 support consoles + Park position + 1 bending aid + Additional foot switch

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2010, functionality: fully functional, bending force (max.): 85 t, installation height: 615 mm, number of axes: 6, Equipment: CE marking, documentation/manual, safety light barrier, Bending length [mm] 2720 Press force [t] 85 Control unit TRUMPF TASC 6000 Operating hours [h] 45666 Hydraulics on [h] 13762 - Top drive concept in four-cylinder design Y1/Y2 - Electrohydraulic ram drive with proportional valve technology - Ram position measuring system with deflection compensation via glass scales - Modern block-type hydraulics - Spherical suspension and inclined position of the pressure beam - CNC backgauge system - Safe finger adjustment from the front - 2 stop fingers - Self-centering, manual, hardened upper tool holder for vertical tool change - Hardened, manual lower tool clamping - Program-controlled lower tool displacement (I-axis) for 2 positions Gujdey Saq Topfx Af Sjb - Flat front cover - Modern safety guard - CE mark - Oil cooler clamping device - Increased installation height - 6-axis backgauge - Hydraulic upper tool clamping - Hydraulic lower tool clamping - CNC crowning - CNC I-axis - BendGuard - ACB preparation - 2 support consoles

Condition: new, overall weight: 40,000 kg, axle configuration: > 3 axles, loading space length: 9,350 mm, suspension: air, tire size: 235/75 R 17,5, color: other, gearing type: other, front tire size: 235/75 R 17,5, rear tire size: 235/75 R 17,5, driver cabin: other, emission class: none, fuel: biodiesel, Equipment: ABS, compressed air brake, Flat loading platform, ABS, air suspension with lifting and lowering functions, axle load scales, total platform length approx. 9,350 mm, 32 lashing rings, 10 stake pockets on the outer frame, loading ramps (approx. 3,100 x 760 mm), climbing strip on the outside of the ramps and rear slope, laterally adjustable loading ramps, 68 mm thick wooden floor, storage box with lid for lashing chains or tension belts, contour marking according to regulations, revolving beacon, spring-loaded parking brake, incl. axle load indicators, vehicle fully hot-dip galvanized, surcharge for: hydraulic ramp displacement = Price: 1,000 €, -- errors, omissions, and changes excepted, sample photos --, More data at: !, More details: ! Guedpfxoy R Rike Af Sjb

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 2026, warranty duration: 12 months, usable tank capacity: 270 l, water connection: 20 mm, cooling capacity: 3 kW (4.08 HP), input voltage: 400 V, tank capacity: 540 l, total width: 980 mm, total length: 1,456 mm, total height: 1,556 mm, input frequency: 50 Hz, DGUV certified until: 06/2027, type of input current: three-phase, sourdough fermenter Model: Tradilevan TL 270 Plant for mixing, maturing and preserving liquid sourdough Automix and Variospeed easy touch control with recipes Mixing time and speed adjustable stainless steel version Exhaust valve/height 474 mm Tank capacity 540 liters, max 270 liters Sauerteg Connection 400V / 50Hz / 7 kW, 16A-CEE plug Dimensions: 980 x 1456 x 1556 mm, WxDxH new machine Gujdpshwzk Djfx Af Seb with 12 months warranty Options: Built-in scale Visit our large bakery machine park!

Condition: used, sheet width 1050 mm plate thickness 4.0 mm thickness at "Niro-steel" 3.0 mm distance between columns 1200 mm blade length 1150 mm no. of strokes 46 - 69 Hub/min cutting angle 1.30 ° Control konv. oil volume 100 ltr. total power requirement 5.68 kW weight 1100 kg From a maintenance workshop In good condition (!!) Features: - Robust electro-hydraulic sheet metal shear Guedpfxsy Raime Af Sjb - Electric motor-driven backgauge * Backlash-free ball screw for backgauge * Travel speed 100 mm/sec - Electric cutting length limiter * Cutting length limiter to increase the stroke rate per minute - Manual cutting gap adjustment (lateral adjustment) - Front support table with recessed grips - Front finger/interference guard - 1x side stop with T-slot and millimeter scale - 2x front support arms - 1x freely movable foot switch - Operating instructions (PDF)

Condition: new, empty load weight: 9,150 kg, maximum load weight: 30,850 kg, overall weight: 40,000 kg, axle configuration: > 3 axles, loading space length: 9,100 mm, suspension: air, tire size: 235/75 R 17,5, color: other, gearing type: other, front tire size: 235/75 R 17,5, rear tire size: 235/75 R 17,5, driver cabin: other, emission class: none, fuel: biodiesel, Equipment: ABS, compressed air brake, ABS, air suspension with lifting and lowering, axle load scales, total loading area length approx. 9,100 mm, low bed approx. 6,900 mm long, loading height approx. 890 mm, 24 x lashing eyes each 10 t, 12 x stake pockets in the outer frame, loading ramps (approx. 3,100 x 760 mm), climbing bar on the outside of the ramps and rear slope, loading ramps adjustable to the side, wooden floor 68 mm thick, storage box with lid for lashing chains or tensioning belts, contour marking according to regulations, rotating beacon, spring-loaded parking brake, , including axle load indicators, , vehicle hot-dip galvanized, , --  Misprints, errors and changes excepted, sample pictures --, More data at: !, More Details: ! Gjdpfxjy Rx Uze Af Soub

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2010, CNC controller: FANUC FS-31iA5 (MAPPS 4) Capacity X-axis travel mm: 685 Y-axis travel mm: 125 Z-axis travel mm: 1075 Turning length mm: 1045 Max. turning diameter mm: ø: 600 Bar work capacity mm: 65 Turn-mill spindle Full indexing specifications: YES B-axis degree: 120º FULL INDEXING SPECIFICATION Speed spindle rpm: 12000 Drive power kW: 18.5/11 Tool magazine Magazine places: 80 Tool holder: CAPTO C5 Tool length max. mm: 250 Tool diameter max. mm: 70/130 Tool weight max kg: 5 Lower turret Number of tool slots St .: 12 Drive power driven tools kW: 5.5/3.7 Main spindle Speed spindle rpm: 5000 Drive power spindle kW: 25/22 (100%/40%ED) Spindle bore mm: 73 Chuck type: HOLLOW CHUCK (8") Manufacturer: KITAGAWA Counter spindle Speed spindle rpm: 5000 Drive power spindle kW: 25/22 (100%/40%ED) Spindle bore mm: 73 Chuck type: HOLLOW CHUCK (8") Manufacturer: KITAGAWA Equipment Electronic Handwheel Chip conveyor Swivel head Signal lamp High pressure pump Mist collector Workarea light CE conformity Chuck foot switch (double) for main and counter spindle Coolant gun Toolholders are not included Precision NC rotary table, rapid traverse and feed rate 100 1/min incl. direct measuring system Oil skimmer Linear scales Gsdpfxswwuaae Af Seub Gantry loader LG-10 AII RENISHAW MP700 Working time hours Under power: 76.510 Spindle 1: 11.521 Spindle 2: 9.271 Potencial nominal kVA: 102 Basic machine dimensions / weight Length mm: 8.000 Width mm: 4.000 Height mm: 3.000 Weight kg: 15.000

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1994, Cutting length 5300 mm, cutting height 2200 mm, cutting height 80 mm, manual feed, measuring system: scale, free-standing supports, rated current 21 A. Storage location: Nattheim. Guodpfx Asytrhrof Sob

Condition: new, overall weight: 40,000 kg, axle configuration: > 3 axles, loading space length: 9,100 mm, suspension: air, tire size: 235/75 R 17,5, color: other, gearing type: other, front tire size: 235/75 R 17,5, rear tire size: 235/75 R 17,5, driver cabin: other, emission class: none, fuel: biodiesel, Equipment: ABS, compressed air brake, ABS, air suspension with lifting and lowering functions, axle load scales, total load area length approx. 9,100 mm, low bed approx. 6,900 mm long, loaded platform height approx. 890 mm, 24 lashing rings each rated for 10 t, 12 stake pockets in the outer frame, climbing strips on the outer side of the ramps and rear slope, two-piece access ramps (approx. 4,300 x 750 mm), side-adjustable access ramps, 68 mm thick wooden flooring, storage box with lid for lashing chains or tension belts, contour markings as per regulations, rotating warning beacon, spring-loaded parking brake, incl. axle load indicators, vehicle hot-dip galvanized, surcharge for: hydraulic ramp adjustment = price: €1,000. Subject to errors, misprints, and changes. Sample images – more data at:! More details:! Godpfx Asy Rlmdef Soub

Condition: new, empty load weight: 10,500 kg, maximum load weight: 29,500 kg, overall weight: 40,000 kg, axle configuration: > 3 axles, suspension: air, tire size: 235/75 R 17,5, color: other, gearing type: other, front tire size: 235/75 R 17,5, rear tire size: 235/75 R 17,5, driver cabin: other, emission class: none, fuel: biodiesel, Equipment: ABS, compressed air brake, 2 pairs of wheel recesses with cover, ABS, air suspension with lift and lower function, axle load scales, total loading platform length approx. 10,250 mm, low bed approx. 7,150 mm long, loaded loading height approx. 890 mm, 24 lashing rings each 10 t, 40 lashing rings each 3 t, access ramps (approx. 3,100 x 760 mm), climbing strip on the outside of the ramps and rear slope, ramps laterally adjustable, 68 mm thick wooden floor, toolbox with lid for lashing chains or straps, contour marking in accordance with regulations, rotating beacon, spring-loaded parking brake, incl. axle load indicators, vehicle hot-dip galvanized, surcharge for: hydraulic ramp displacement = price: 1,000 €, --Subject to typographical errors, mistakes and modifications, sample images--, More data at: !, More details: ! Godpfxsy Rlkce Af Seub

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2025, bore capacity in steel (diameter) 32.0 mm 35.0 mm bore stroke 150 mm M 22 (St 60) throat 300 mm 0.1 - 0.2 mm/U MK 4 480 x 480 mm 80.0 - 1.170 U/min 0.90 / 1.35 kW 340 kg 800 x 1000 x 2000 mm Gusdpfx Afsx Dngkj Seb Manufacturer's list price: 8.665 EURO Special price on request Equipment: - Column drilling machine - "V-belt drive" - infinitely variable speed adjustment - Manual automatic spindle feed - Thread cutting device * automatic feed reversal RS for thread cutting - pole-changing drive motor - depth scale and adjustable depth stop - Height-adjustable work table * Adjustment with hand crank - Right/left rotation of the drill spindle - Machined machine base incl. coolant device - Machine/work light - Folding drill spindle guard - Emergency stop button at the front - CE marking + instruction manual

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1989, Used machine Year of manufacture: 1989 Equipment and technical data: Gedjy R E Uzepfx Af Seub - Planing width: 410 mm - 4-knife shaft - Motor power: 3 kW - Shaft speed: 5,000 rpm - Shaft diameter: 120 mm - Feed speed: 8 + 14 m/min - Maximum planing height: 230 mm - Extraction port: Ø 150 mm - Surface table: two-piece, foldable, synchronized on both sides - Fence: tiltable, angle with magnifying display - Table height adjustment: via double universal joints, handwheel with scale display - Thickness planer: with outfeed roller, spring-mounted, feed rollers driven synchronously Dimensions: 2,040 × 1,180 mm Weight: 560 kg Availability: short-term Location: 63934 Röllbach

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1991, controller manufacturer: Siemens, controller model: 840 Dsl, _____ Description: Year of manuf. : 1991 Control : Siemens 840 Dsl Turning diam. : 1600 mm Turning length : 1800 mm In General: Year of manufacture:1991 / 2010 Control system retrofit:2010 Control system:Siemens 840 Dsl Circumferential diameter:2,000 mm Turning diameter:1,600 mm Turning height:1,800 mm Table / Faceplate: Technology:Gear-driven table Speed:315 rpm Power:105 kW Max. torque:50,000 Nm Faceplate:1,600 mm Max. table load:12,000 kg Tool carrier: Crossbeam travel (vertical):1,200 mm Chisel slide travel:1,500 mm Support travel (horizontal):2,300 (+/-1,150) mm Penetration diameter:340 mm Chisel slide cross-section:240 x 240 mm Equipment: Tool magazine:20 stations Chip removal:Chip conveyor Coolant supply:Coolant system with filter Tool measurement:Probe Set-up:Electronic handwheel Tool holders:Various tool holders Control system overhaul: Year of overhauling:2010 Technology:Siemens 840 Dsl Gsdpfx Afjy R Iwxs Soub NC control:Sinumerik NCU 710.2 Motors:X/Z-axis, ATC, :spindle Measuring systems:Direct scales X/Z, ROD encoder table Control panels:Machine control panel, ATC operator panel

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2014, Technical Description: Cutting Height: Vertical: 2,150 mm, Horizontal: 50–2,000 mm Cutting Length: 4,300 mm Cutting Depth: 80 mm (with clamps: 55 mm) Saw Blade Protrusion Behind Workpiece: approx. 15 mm Saw Blade: Diameter 303 mm, Bore 30 mm, Z=60 Alternate Top Bevel Saw Blade Rotation: 4,200 rpm Motor Power: 4 kW (5.5 HP) Required Air Pressure: 6 bar Gujdpfx Afoy Rphxs Seb Material Support Rollers: 20 ball-bearing rollers + 2 infeed/outfeed rollers Panel Locking for horizontal cuts via pneumatic workpiece clamping system, controlled by a switch on the operator panel. Middle Support: 3 support elements for 3 m support, foldable individually by hand. Dimension Readout for: - Horizontal Cuts: by digital readout with zero reset (for strip cutting from top to bottom), by scale from 0–2,100 mm, and by strip stop from 75–730 mm - Vertical Cuts: by electronic digital display and scale from 0–1,300 mm Extraction Nozzles: 100 mm for the saw unit and 120 mm for the rear extraction ducts, positioned on the right side of the machine frame. Equipment Features: - ADVANCE clamping system, consisting of 2 pneumatic clamping jaws motor-driven on ball screw along vertical axes. The clamping jaws can be positioned to the upper edge of the panel via joystick. The jaws automatically detect and stop at the panel’s upper edge using a contact switch. After reaching, the jaws close and secure the panel. They support panels up to max. 150 kg. The jaws can lift the panel for lower edge trimming, then relocate it with the trimmed edge resting on the lower support (also detected by contact switch). The jaws can then be raised again or continue holding the panel during horizontal cutting to relieve the cut. This prevents the panel from dropping onto the saw blade after the horizontal cut! Standard distance between clamps is approx. 1,800 mm. Position: right side of the machine (other positions available at extra cost). Minimum strip height with Advance jaws: 400 mm. - Electropneumatic scoring system for chip-free saw cuts by double cutting with the main blade (no scoring width adjustment needed – always ready to use – user-friendly) - Torsion-resistant, freestanding machine frame. - Round rod guide for vertical and horizontal travel. - Pneumatically retractable slatted panel prevents contact between saw blade and rear wall slats (strip). A sensor detects slat position; the grid recoils pneumatically if the saw would hit a slat. - Extraction nozzle on the saw head for dust collection in front of the workpiece. - Extraction nozzles for 3 vertical extraction ducts for dust generated behind the workpiece. - Fine-adjustable flip stop for vertical cuts, guided on a 30 mm round bar. - Extension stop (eliminating the need to lift heavy panels from the lower rollers onto the middle support). - Fine adjustment for horizontal cuts via handwheel. - Foldable strip cutting stop with ball bearing sensor along upper panel edge, adjustable from 75–730 mm.

Condition: new, Heidenhain LC 183 / 10nm ML 1040mm linear scale ID: 557679-10 SN: 25851432F with AE LC 1x3 read head ID: 582578-03 SN: 25475221, unused in opened original packaging, 100% functional, scope of delivery as per photos. Gusdjx Dwr Aepfx Af Seb

Condition: new, Heidenhain LID 400-0010 scale 01UML0050Z0025 . 232206-18 SN:7827134, unused in opened original packaging, 100% functional, scope of delivery as per photos Gjdpfxoi Eanwj Af Seub

Condition: new, Heidenhain LID 400-0010 scale, . 232206-18 , SN:7828137 , unused in original packaging, 100% functional, scope of delivery as per photos Gedpfx Afei Ean Ee Sjub

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2007, sheet width 2050 mm plate thickness 4.0 mm distance between columns 2100 mm back stop - adjustable 550 mm no. of strokes 35 Hub/min cutting angle 2°12 table width 400 mm table height 850 mm Control konv. total power requirement 3.0 kW weight of the machine ca. 1380 kg dimensions of the machine ca. 2400 x 1500 x 1300 mm current new price approx. 25.000 euros from a maintenance workshop Equipment: - robust / powerful electro-mechanical guillotine shears - electro-motorized material / backgauge * Movement possible via electric button * Infinitely variable adjustment range * Digital position indicator "EZM-9910" - Manual cutting gap adjustment, from the front - Ball rollers in the support table Guedpsy Nd Ttofx Af Sjb - 1x side stop with mm scale - 2x support arms - 1x freely movable foot switch - rear sheet metal chute - Rear safety guard (safety grid) - Operating instructions (machine control)

Condition: new, Column drilling machine Make: ALZMETALL Model: AX 3 iTRONIC-V Year of manufacture: 2023 Condition: New machine Speed 80 - 1.125 rpm. standard equipped with: - 7" TFT - LCD display with touch function: Manual input spindle speed setpoint, Speed display actual value, Integrated drilling depth display with Touch zero point transfer, Virtual drilling depth scale in the display, Machine status displays and warnings in display, service information, Selectable operator language: DE/EN/FR/ES/IT/NL/RU. - Thread cutting device - Speed adjustment, stepless, by means of lever - Speed display, digital - Three separate buttons for clockwise rotation - counterclockwise rotation - stop - clockwise and counter-clockwise rotation via contactor control - automatic drill feed with feed overload protection - spindle protection - operating instructions Gjdpfxoh I N Trs Af Seub other important technical data: - 40 mm drilling capacity in ST 60 - 120 mm quill stroke - spindle cone MK 3 - 115 mm column diameter - feed rate 0,1 + 0,2 mm/rev - 1,45 / 1,9 kW Motor power - 515 x 360 mm Table dimension with the following options: - LED machine light - foot switch, complementary to the threading device - Technology calculator in the display - Drilling depth fine adjustment and fixed stop